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Please C&C: More of Lisa Shoot

Please C&C: More of Lisa Shoot 
Please C&C: More of Lisa Shoot 
Please C&C: More of Lisa Shoot 
Please C&C: More of Lisa Shoot 
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I see that you are making good use of those Hensel lights you just got

Here is some C&C:

#1: The crop is too aggressive. Tight crops are good, but you are too close on this one. The lighting in this shot is the best out of all the others. By the catch lights I can see that you are using umbrellas. I know that the kit that you bought came with a small softbox. Try the box for nicer shadows. Also, this image is very soft. I am not sure if it was shot soft or it's just your post processing, but it's soft.

#2: Not bad. The lighting is a bit on a flat side for my taste. I am also not happy with the pose or the composition. The left shoulder is too far forward for this pose, and the head is overly tilted.

#3: The lighting is very flat. More contrast between the main and the fill is needed. The pose is not very flattering to Lisa. Her hips should be at about a 45 degree angle to the camera to make her look a bit skinnier. This pose makes her look like she has a beer belly. Last but not least: GET RID OF THE HAIR TIE ON HER WRIST! PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS!!!

#4: You cut the poor kid's fingers off! The lighting is once again flat. The composition and cropping is way off. Don't cut off fingers and toes. Don't crop at joints (elbows, wrists, knees, ankles), it makes your models look like amputees.

Overall, a major improvement from your previous posts.
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Originally Posted by ffppro
#1: The crop is too aggressive. Tight crops are good, but you are too close on this one. The lighting in this shot is the best out of all the others. By the catch lights I can see that you are using umbrellas. I know that the kit that you bought came with a small softbox. Try the box for nicer shadows. Also, this image is very soft. I am not sure if it was shot soft or it's just your post processing, but it's soft.
Originally Posted by ffppro
I have to agree, the crop is a bit too tight and focus is a touch soft. Lighting here is the best of the four, but I'd like have to have seen a bit more contrast between the two light sources.

Originally Posted by ffppro
#2: Not bad. The lighting is a bit on a flat side for my taste. I am also not happy with the pose or the composition. The left shoulder is too far forward for this pose, and the head is overly tilted.
Lighting is definately flat, there should (almost) always be a full stop difference between your key and fill lights. The pose woul have worked better with her head tilted the other direction but I thing the shoulder being further back would have helped. This is something you'll both learn through goofing up and practice!

Originally Posted by ffppro
#3: The lighting is very flat. More contrast between the main and the fill is needed. The pose is not very flattering to Lisa. Her hips should be at about a 45 degree angle to the camera to make her look a bit skinnier. This pose makes her look like she has a beer belly. Last but not least: GET RID OF THE HAIR TIE ON HER WRIST! PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS!!!
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Igor on this one too. I think I'd just lose this shot alltogether or crop it in tighter (just head and shoulders and rotate it a bit counter clockwise to counteract some of the head tilt. Again I thing leaning her head ther other direction would have worked better.

#4: You cut the poor kid's fingers off! The lighting is once again flat. The composition and cropping is way off. Don't cut off fingers and toes. Don't crop at joints (elbows, wrists, knees, ankles), it makes your models look like amputees.
Yeah big huge NO NO on the cropping at joints. Here again this pic might be saved with a tigher crop. Get rid of the hands alltogether and lock in on their faces plus that'll help some with the general flatness of the lighting. The contrast can be punched up some in PS, but you have to be careful with that.

I am not that familiar with Hensel lights myself but there are some things that are universal. If you are having trouble with being able to dial power to different settings remember the Inverse Square Law of Light. If you have two lights at the same power and one is four feet from your subject and the other is eight feet from the subject the eight foot one will provide half the light of the four foot one.

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Thanks for the C&C, I am just starting with the new lights and have a long way to go. The catch light was the beauty Dish the soft light box was the fill still working on the light arangements... I will get better as I shot more with this. I have setup my studio in the basement and will be working there until I install heat in the Garage for my test area..
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Thanks for the C&C, I am working on the light balancing through these shoots..

-Bill
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Well working hard with the new lights, I did secure a new model but she does not do nude so I will just have to make due. worked on the first C&C:
1) Flat Lighting
2) Sharp Focus

Meet Barbie T. Head

 
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My opinion with all but the first shot is that they are generally a little underexposed.

The lighting is indeed a bit flat, and one side should be exposed more than the other in many cases, these being some of them. Fashion and Glamour sometimes use butterfly lighting or other more front-oriented styles.

I think they also have a slight blue cast and would do better with a lower kelvin white balance.

This particular subject's best angle is not from below (#3, or bottom left); other angles are better for her.

Last thought is that they should be better separated from the background, either by lighting the background separately or illuminating the edges/hair of the subject more. Give her prominence and contrast against the background. Directional lighting is a wonderful thing, like grids and certain other things can do.

Last edited by JoeyA; 03-26-2008 at 01:29 AM.

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